Sunday, July 29, 2012

Mistakes don't erase everything

I've made several attempts on this blog to "not discuss her personal life" because I felt the guilt long ago.  Knowing that they didn't want to be tabloid fodder I didn't want to "feed the beast." For this reason, and the fact that my interest in English football had really grown into a passion, this blog was on its dying embers.  I was ok with this, because there is only so many ways for me to say how awesome Kristen is.   Plus, the news was always good.   Talented bloggers, like KJ, could spread the right message.  There was not much for me to contribute, IMO I felt like my interest in Kristen was in this department over there, and they are doing great over there, so I'll move on to other interests.  Now the Kristen department is full of sadness and I feel it right along with many of you.   How many scandals like this have you seen over the years without giving it a second thought? Kristen, and by extension Robert, were the first celebs many of us had EVER cared about. Before Tuesday, the time I spent reading about Kristen  had gone down to 15-30 minutes a week.   My mind was on the upcoming Barclay's Premiere League and all the transfer news.   I glanced at the positive Kristen news and moved on.  The past couple of days, @poptrashmoviee has expressed a very valid point that all the good news was due to her being pushed to max to become "the highest paid actress in Hollywood".   More down time was probably needed and might have prevented his.   There is also opinion out there that the facts don't add up.  It doesn't despite the pictures.  If everything that meets the eye is true, then I feel it was all about self-destruction.  This is a psyche issue that can be healed. I have a desire to know those involved are progressing into healing.  I know this will take time.     I wish i could forget about all of this.   Its best to ignore as much media on this as possible.   So little out there is reliable.   What Kristen least wanted to happen is happening.  The money being made on her private life is at an all time high.   Kristen is still a very good person. This mistake doesn't undo all thats good about her.  I think Rob knows this, too.  She is still the one I wouldn't want to get away.   But maybe she needs to be alone to work on herself.   I am not qualified to say what's best.  Her comments, during SWATH promo, about her life being boring and wishing for some conflict,  haunt me.   Therapy is needed, with or without Rob. Me saying that isn't exactly "minding my own business."  Sorry.   That guilt will probably stop me from doing more blogging on this. Like many of you, I  want everyone involved to stop hurting.   I  care about that girl.  And him.  This is true despite the fact I don't know them. Please don't take this next comment seriously, because its NOT.  Its intended to make me (and maybe you) smile.  Rob has a movie coming up where he goes to Iraq, right?  Kristen should cancel Cali, go with him and wear a burka (;

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  1. <3333 you made me smile. I have hope that they can make it through. It will take time, obviously, but they can.

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  2. This is a lovely post, IA. With time, patience, faith and love that is still there...I hope that she sees HIM as the one not to get away either.

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  3. If her life was boring, she should follow her life and he had it with or without therapy. I think she needs therapy rather, cause someone who is dissatisfied with his life and decides to set off with her and have that right. But have no right to do so with the other. If Rob goes to Iraq to work, he does not need people with existential problems with his. And part of the cure, and to show recognize errors and not hide in a burka.

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  4. Amem.. for every word u said.. i read an article abt self sabotage.. and i think this is whay Kristen has done.. when u go insane for having everything good and perfect in ur life which ppl dont reach till their middle age and u r just 22 yrs old.. u ofc rnt wise and dont appreciate enough what u have coz u r soooo young for it... dont know what else or new will u do next in ur life !! so u r feeling bored and lookong for anything upnormal to do even it's out of ur own personality (u feel its not u at all whem u did it) ...
    Plus bad men out there r looking for pretty weak naive girls to mess with.. and as much as Kristen becomes more powerful in her career...she becomes weak inside affraid of loosing everything... this is why she decide to go and try one outing with Rupert S. as something new concedering Rob someone essential in her life like air to breath.. u dont feel how important it is till u r loosing it.. she didnt think she cheated on him.. coz she considers him hers anyway and whatever happens as her own body becoz of their long term relation
    Kristen needs to go to a shrink srsly.. nit becoz she's crazy of somthing.. no.. just to discover what is going on with her to save her only love of her life and her career too

    i love Kristen from all my heart and i realy wish her all the best with Rob or others

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  5. I really wasn't serious about the Burka or Kristen going to Iraq. I know some readers here are using Google translate. I don't think my writing come out clear through the translator.

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  6. thank u for painting a brighter picture =) i pray to god this can be sorted

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  7. We don't know them but yet we do. So when I say "Rob drinks", you know it's true. And for good reason. We all want the perfect life which eludes us miserably. They are just normal people we have put up in that altitude where no one can breathe. We love them, always will. 5yrs. of joy not bad. Putting out good energy their way.(praying!)

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  8. I am not going to accept comments here of made up gossip. Don't bother.

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  9. Loved your thoughts! And I am smiling!

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  10. My thoughts on this entire debacle have evolved since Wednesday. But one thing seems clear: something is just off. This behavior seems so atypical of Kristen. I know that she can be rebellious and irreverent. Most of us like those qualities because we also know that she's kind, intelligent, loyal, and mature beyond her years.

    I just so hope they will both come out of this OK, individually or together. I can only think that given the response of the fan base and the probable responses of Rob's friends and both their families, Kristen's level of self-loathing must be off the charts. I'm so terribly sorry for her.

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  11. Sure this has been said, but it's similar to "Em" from Adventureland.

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  12. Good point, Dano! I'm so glad you've decided to stay with this blog for a while. You're the best.

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  13. Hi Dano, Thank you, again, for coming back to us. It's so nice to have a guy's POV. From what you've written, I get the impression that if you were in Rob's shoes, you'd at least give a good try with her rather than just turn your back on the past 4 years. Though, I do agree that she needs to spend some time with herself and possibly a therapist. And, I know you were just joking but I've heard other comments about how she should just give up her commitments and go be with him. If she started backing out of contractual obligations, that kind of behavior is what could ruin her career far more than her "cheating scandal" (I'm quoting here). I'm kinda hoping that they'll start communicating via texts and emails and perhaps get to know each other again slowly.

    I love her and really hope she'll realize that she might have some problems which allowed her to get into this terrible situation. So many of us with problems just can't admit that there might be something underlying that we have to dig for. I really hope that they BOTH fight to save their friendship and/or relationship, though I believe it will take a lot of work.

    On another note, remember all the conjecture about the studio controlling them and their relationship and what they can and cannot do? This is one time that I really wish the "big guys" would have enough influence to persuade them to "act" like they're getting along for the BD2 promos. Sometimes, the acting can turn to reality. Yes, I know, I'm probably wishful thinking but that's what desperate 60 year olds do when they love two people they don't know... and can't help but be happy when I see them happy together.

    Liz in NC

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  14. Hi Liz. I agree with almost all you said. I wouldn't give up but I would be mad for awhile. And I would want a shrink's opinion that she really wants to fix what is wrong (as opposed to just fixing the fear of being alone.).

    I don't agree with the promo thing. If they don't want to be there (even if they are patching things up) then it could be a humiliating experience. That movie's numbers aren't going to be affected by more press and pictures. I could be wrong. I hope the studio has a heart and understands they filmed everything before all of this. I wouldn't want them doing promo unless they wanted to do it. We will be able to tell if they want to be there. I really hope the studio gives them a choice.

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  15. Dan,

    I hope they are not "forced" to do anything either. That was just an old lady wishful thinking... I read too many romances. However, no matter what their situation is, they will have to appear together at some of the promo stuff, no way out of that, I imagine. I'm really glad that it's not next week or next month. Hoping they'll be able to handle it by September.

    I am literally a mess, didn't realize how attached and invested I was in these kids. Some days I feel more angry with her but her future actions will make all the difference. I guess what disturbs me the most is that she went and did exactly what those "haters" had been saying about her. As much as I love her, I'd like to just shake her.

    Dan, here's a question for you. If you were the involved BF, and needed time to get over the anger and hurt as you mentioned previously, if she hooked up with someone else within a few months of the incident/breakup, would that be a sign to you that she didn't love you enough? This is a real concern I have since she's not used to being on her own. Not to mention all the guys that would be after her.

    Liz in NC

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  16. Can't say what I would do is what he would do. Plus, she can be pretty strong if she needs to be. This has been a weak moment for her, but I think her self preservation instincts will kick in.

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  17. I've been calmed down a bit and I feel lighter today. I have not much to say except wishing Kristen & Rob the best.

    Mistakes don't define who you are. I hope people who claimed to be her fans but gave up pn her could come to sense of this. I have tears afetr reading this comment on another blog: "If you don't support her at the worst, you don't deserve her at the best."

    Monica from Asia

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  18. You know, this "scandal" thus far is pretty tame as far as scandals go. I seem to remember standing in front of my TV yelling "DipSh*t!" repeatedly at John Edwards when he confirmed his relationship with Rielle Hunter - that in & of itself was not such a huge deal to me (due to low expectations of such a narcisstic man), but there were those other little details -> he made her pregnant, he was running for President, AND his wife (rest her soul) was battling cancer at the time.

    Of course we may have only heard the rumbling of the gossip volcano thus far, and I may have to eat my words if the Truth has still not hit the proverbial fan. WTTR producer Giovanni Agnelli has been defending Kristen via twitter, minimizing the degree of the actual sexual contact. Would that rate this "scandal" PG-13? I think Kristen or her people would have stopped Agnelli if she was indefensible.

    The mistakes she has made are definitely serious - to herself and Rob, and to Mr. & Mrs. Sanders ONLY. I haven't heard that Kristen is running for President.

    Thanks for this space, I appreciate it.

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  19. I agree Dano and Monica, a great quote. I truly hope everything settles down quickly and Rob & Kristen can at least "be friends" enough to be together during the BD2 promo. Otherwise, I'm a bit worried about her safety. There are some real "nuts" out there.

    I'm feeling more hopeful every day. Most of the crazy stuff coming from the media has been proven to be false. I've also "heard" that they are communicating which is a HUGE deal.

    I'm also a bit concerned about Kristen doing the SWATH sequel with Rupert. IF (and I know it's a big "if") her and Rob do reconcile or at least start some sort of new relationship, I would think that it would be impossible for Kris and Rupert to work together. I've read several places that HE would be the one that the studio would boot out but who knows.

    Liz in NC

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  20. Liz, I agree that Rupert would probably be the one to go. The studio can hardly produce a sequel to SWATH without Kristen, but it's common to change directors mid-stream.

    I have to say that from Rupert's stance, this was not only an immoral act (remember the wife and kids, Rupert?) but an arrogant and stupid one as well. I understand that Rupert had a good reputation directing TV series but that SWATH was his first movie, not a time for the captain of the ship to play fast and loose with the leading lady.

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  21. This has gotten out of hand, the whole ordeal is pretty tame in comparison with many other scandals.people having long time affairs and secret children,guys marrying adopted daughters,guys condemned for sleeping with minors (very very underage),guys caught with prostitutes,guys sexually abusing children,guys punching their girlfriends and leaving her face like a map,guys abusing women,accused of rape,guys linked to sects and mafias,people putting other people's lives in danger by driving completely wasted...and the list goes on and on.Without even mentioning all the crazy stuff you here everyday in the non-famous world....And most of them in a much mature age.And nobody wrote countless articles about their "sins" and nobody questioned their careers and this were not affected...

    And then you get a 22yo that fucks up for whatever reason like many many others (and that without considering the pressures and asfixiating world she lives in)and gets caught in a PG13 situation in some pics. And the insanity begans and some act like she is the devil....This is always a personal matter between a couple and it's nobody's business but theirs to judge or punish.The media is acting again ridiculously and encouraging this bullying.And the commenters on webpages and social media...again full of hate and with a sense of entitlement for something that don't concern them. They were all dying to find something to crush her.Now they are having a blast.Then you'll find this same people writing and commenting about how terrible bullying is and how our children can act in this way...it's incredible.Im so disgusted with the coverage and the reactions this thing has gotten.Nobody deserves this public stoning,and less for something like this. Not even talking about how everyone obsess over her and not the mature man twice her age and with bigger responsibilities who issued a standar and robotic statement...

    Thank god from time to time you find people and places like this where rationalty prevails. I hope this daily stupidity dies soon,and they both can have a little bit of peace to deal with it.

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  22. Anon Aug 2, 2:50am, Well said!!!!! People are crazy. They are skinning Kristen alive. That's utter disgusting. They are enjoying another person's fall and act like moral judges themselves. Puff~~~~

    Monica from Asia

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  23. This twitlonger makes sense

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ijjntu

    Even if Kristen is totally guilty, which I have increasing doubts of, she should be forgiven and the tabs need to back off.

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  24. Yeah,there is no doubt that media and their consumers need to back off and fast.Seriously.She's not the Pope of Rome.Whatever happens in her personal life is anf will always be her business.

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  25. Initially, I was unbelievably attracted to Rob. This had never before happened to me, so I was both alarmed and enraptured. It wasn't merely his looks; there are thousands of handsome celebrities. It was his amazing candor, humor, intelligence and decency. When in the entire history of men has there ever been a guy who was so spectacularly attractive and also such a clearly good and faithful man?

    I was slower to the table when it came to Kristen. But gradually I began to see how perfectly they meshed as a couple:

    1). Rob has said he likes his women bold and rebellious, not girly cupcakes who filter their every thought to please men. Kristen clearly fit that model.
    2). They are both well-read, thoughtful, intelligent, and disdainful of the entrapments of celebrity.
    3). They both have strong attachments to family and friends.
    4). Although Rob's family is perhaps more traditional, they both come from close-knit families who show every sign of deeply loving and supporting them.
    5). They are both talented and ambitious.
    6). They are both very private people.

    Although I had hoped for a reconciliation between Rob and Kristen, I initially could not see how she could be forgiven such a betrayal. But the more I study this sad situation, I see Rupert as the greater culprit. From a legal standpoint there are many instances in which such a situation could be prosecuted, the much older individual in a position of power perceived as taking advantage of a much younger person under his auspices.

    It's easy to see why Rupert was so attracted to Kristen: she's beautiful, spirited, talented, and looks uncannily like a younger version of his wife. But I believe that Kristen, for all her outward fierceness, is also naive and vulnerable to the ways of predatory men or women with agendas. I'm not denying Kristen's culpability or her almost unbelievable betrayal of Rob. I'm just saying that no one, perhaps especially Rob, should rush to judgement regarding this matter. There is much to lose here but also potentially much to gain.

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  26. Hi all,

    Dano, AGAIN, I think you for posting some and staying open for us. We've lost several good blogs in the past week or so. Don't really understand but not for me to judge who's a real fan and who isn't.

    I'm still hoping and praying that Kris & Rob will work things out. Have heard from a few reliable sources that they are talking, not just texting. Since they were best friends, this has to be a good sign. I still hope that Kristen will try to get some counseling and figure out what went wrong, why she "allowed" such a thing to happen to her. I believe she was chased by Rupert, not the other way around, but she will always have to deal with those type of situations.

    Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

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  27. Hi everyone,

    I've debated doing another post, but I don't have any original thoughts right now. This isn't a "Robsten" blog or a news blog. It all started because I was (and remain) fascinated with Kristen. Sometimes I'll re-read the first few entries from 2010 when i honestly thought no one else would ever see this.

    Part of me wishes I could forget what happened a week ago. I am grateful that the Euro Soccer leagues start in a couple of weeks. But the sadness factor is going to take awhile to play out. I want to be supportive without "feeding the beast".

    This blog was coming to a natural phase out before recent events. My last post before this happened was months ago. This incident prompted me to show that I still support Kristen and always will. I am not closing the blog or going on hiatus. I will still write something when I feel the need. I am grateful that whenever I do decide to post, a small loyal group continues to read it. I've never wanted a huge audience because I would have never been able to satisfy the appetite for frequent updates. Comments are still welcome as long as they remain respectful. I still prefer boards, rather than Twitter, to have a conversation. So if you have to get something off your chest, then you are welcome to comment here.

    I do moderate. I've had to decline a few nasty comments recently.

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  28. Dano, glad you're staying. Just can't accept the fact that so many others are ready to abandon the ship. Being a fan has been a tremendous joy for me in past few years. It's not something I can give up easily. Not only they leave Kristen behind, I feel like myself being left behind too. So lost, so disappointed.

    Monica from Asia

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    1. Dano, you are always the voice of reason.

      Monica, I totally agree with you that "I" feel left behind by some of the regular blogs that were about R & K together AND supposedly, separately. I just don't get it, but, if their hearts aren't in it, so be it.

      What's going to be interesting is to see if they come back to life "when" (don't believe there's an "if" at this point) they get back together. I would be fearful of investing time and effort into them knowing that the next time there's a "kink" in the system (meaning RK's relationship) they'll just bail out.

      I do believe we are looking at a reconciliation, though it might take some time. I'm thinking we probably won't see them together for a couple of months, although I think they'll be together before then, if only to have dates, etc. If this wasn't all a PR setup (just can't quite believe it) then they both need time to heal and figure out what's best for them. Only, with BD2 coming up so soon, they'll have to figure out something fairly soon, even if it's only for a temporary truce. No matter what, he's going to be very protective of her as he always has been and if the fans think he's still hurt and angry when the red carpet it out, she'll be in danger.

      Have faith!!!

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  30. Hi Dano, first time commentinv but Ive been reading ur blog since 2010. its nice to have a sane male opinion. Ive always agreed w ur opinions and still am. Just wanna say thank u for supporting Kristen and looks like she's following ur advice re:CALI ;-). I hope she spends time to re evaluate, refocus, heal and forgive HERSELF while patching things up with the love of her life. I have faith that they will emerge from this together stronger.

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  31. Greetings everyone. Using the comment section is my sneaky way of communicating without actually doing a post.

    I am also glad she is taking a time-out. For whatever reason. In that post I really did hope she would cancel. The added part of going to Iraq and wearing a burka was the joke part. If that were to happen, we would never find out and that would be for the best. I am sure the stealth skills will become sharp again.

    I definitely was excited about seeing her in that role. But it's not worth it right now. She will continue to get excellent offers for as long as she wants to work. We all have to take mental health breaks from on occasion

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  32. Agreed. I for one wd be happy if she goes back to her Sundance/indie roots where she is clearly more happy doing. Its just sad that she was just feeling she has equal control/contribution in a blockbuster movie when she did SWATH, but now she'll be wondering if all that is a part of the nefarious plan concocted by he who shld not be named. I love her, I will support her in picking up herself, her confidence (breaks my heart to see if shes right back to being the second guessing interviewee in the twilight days, after being leaps and bounds the confident women just 4 weeks ago), her maturing into the learned exquisite UNIQUE woman that she is. Lastly here is a joke: If Rob cant get pass this (But lets face it, he totally will not let her go!), I would ship you with Kristen, Dano hahaha

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  33. Hi Dano. im taking refuge here. Its Cosmopolis premiere & promo. Happy for Rob but... why is my heart feels like its tearing apart. Im picturing a girl in front of her laptop w a smile and unstoppable tears down her face. I want to be there and hug her and tell her be strong, u got this! And i want to be w

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  34. I hear you. I think about the pain and self loathing she must be feeling. I wish I could say something that would make her feel better.

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  35. Sorry i cant finish the sentence last night. The love i have for this girl. Never felt like this for someone who dont know me. One day at a time babygirl. Inch by inch pick urself up. Seek help w needed. One foot after the next. We r here to catch u when u stumble or fall. Unconditionally. U will find your world again. And when u do, it will be leas fairytale, more real and stronger than ever. Prayers and hope to you and ur love ones, always

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  36. Anon, same here. Knowing her suffering but can't do anything to make her feel better kills me. Her pain is my pain. Her wound is my wound.

    Monica from Asia

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  37. Completely agree,anon 5.20.She has suffered much more than enough.Everyone trashing her and Everyone using her painful personal situation for their own benefit.Bullied for years and this is the final stroke.I will always support her,no matter which route she takes.I hope she can heal soon,she has all her life ahead of her.At 22 years old she can achieve anything with a good fight.I wish she's surronded by good people now.I'll keep supporting her,now more than ever.

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  38. I can only imagine how she is suffering, watching Rob on TV, etc. I really hope they are still talking ... if so, she would have an idea of what to expect before it happens.

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  39. Liz,i hope she is not watching his promo stuff,mostly night shows.It would be really devasting to see everyone making jokes and jabs and laughing about her with nobody defending her against this ongoing public stoning.As if everyone is allowed to condenm her for something that belongs to her personal live.

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  40. Im sorry to use this space as my refuge yet again. Im just full of rage w the THR skewed article implying that while a 22y women will be kept out if her role but the philandering director will be suppported by the producers and studio, while using named 22 yo to create unjust attention. Shameful world Im living in. My opinion: she wouldnt touch that role if the slimeball is involved and they r trying to get out of her stipulated sequel contract.
    Kristen, as the eloquent Ms Jodie Foster put it, I hope there are loving arms protecting you right now. Led you to safety of unconditional love. Start with tge necessary, then the possibles and suddenly you are doing the impossible! And dearest Kristen, I will be on my feet applauding you, and I know there are a sea of people standing in support with me.

    Siti

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  41. Hasn't that story been debunked? Even it it hasn't been, there is no doubt she is taking way more heat than Sanders. That guy is a true scum bag who took advantage of her, IMO. He is more slimy than a snake's belly.

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  42. Ok. I missing the facts on this story. I saw a story in the New York Daily news, but that may not be reliable. If the facts come in & it turns out that Universal has punished Kristen and given Rupert a pass: then I'll have a few things to say. Right now I have to work & don't have time to research this.

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  43. Dan, I just saw a report from Josh Horowitz at MTV who got a statement from Universal... basically says that the reports are not true.

    I also just read that Kristen will be attending the Toronto Film Festival for OTR in early September and will NOT be attending the VMA's. Also, Rob will not be attending and was never confirmed to attend. I was hoping that would be a great "ice breaker" for the two of them to appear with Taylor. I was thinking it would help her to be shown acceptance by Rob, no matter what's going on with them behind the scenes. Guess it'll be BD2 promo before we see them together.

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  44. Hi Dan,

    This is a great article I saw on Twitter... hard to believe from Fox News but anyway, says so much about what we are thinking.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/17/in-defense-twilight-star-kristen-stewart/

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  45. Yep. I read it and RT'd it already (;

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  46. I hope that you do blog about it because many of us feel so powerless right now and we care about Kristen as a human being on a journey--and less about her career as an actress. Well me anyway,
    She must be in an extreme amount of emotional pain right now. Even though she is responsible, it doesn't mean she in not human and isn't completely devastated. She is or she would not have dropped out of Cali. Jodie Foster's article also shows me that K is not doing well. And this is my own logic and opinion. I do not put ANY stock in the celeb. gossip sites. And hope they move on stat.

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  47. Hello? Anybody here? Dano, I know you're a busy guy but anything you can give us about your prospective is helpful to those of us still in a state of shock and misery.

    I am SO looking forward to seeing Kristen next week at TIFF. So many of her fans (on another blog) want her to come out fighting and speak up for herself against the paps, etc. To me, the best way she can "fight" them would be to show up smiling with her head held, dressed conservatively, and acting like her usual, shy, timid, awkward self. Personally, I believe that Rob will be back at the hotel or hiding away somewhere nearby. I also hope that Tom will show up and act naturally towards her to help stop some of those awful rumors.

    Nothing she does will stop ALL the rumors. This will probably be one of the most difficult things she'll ever have to do in her life, at least up to this point.

    Hopefully everyone here is well.

    LIZ IN NC (sometimes called LALA LAND)...

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  48. I'll try to do a post today. I have to work a few more hours. Don't think I have much to contribute, but it will be a new board for comments.

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